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#1 User is offline   Etchel Icon

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 08:59 PM

A weird new map, spectators, and a new , funny double elimination tournament setup and some glitchy scripting made for an interesting night of PvP. In the end, the undefeated Wookie Hunters came out on top! Here are the standings:

FIRST: Wookie Hunters
- The Beast Smith
- MISTER SIR
- Savior

SECOND: best friends forever <3
- Elegy
- creHater
- Goramiya

THIRD (TIE): Three Stooges

- A s s a s s i n [MVP]!
- Friar Tuck
- Fehftir

THIRD (TIE): Kris Didn't Make The Cut

- Master Buddhist
- bear
- Peels

A s s a s s i n was voted [MVP] for this weeks arena. They displayed some interesting use of SinX skills and got some very effective kills when their team needed it the most. Congratulations to them! They have an extra Gold Bag waiting in the mail.

Prizes will be mailed out. Thanks to everyone for participating. Next week we have a lot of good changes in mind, so we are hoping for a better turnout! See you there :D
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 09:24 PM

fehftir? where insepshun n maz? T__T sorry to ivory, when im back we can finally join
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 09:52 PM

View Postdyoolyan, on 01 August 2010 - 01:24 PM, said:

fehftir? where insepshun n maz? T__T sorry to ivory, when im back we can finally join

lee and me were out... so someone subbed in for us... mazda is out for 3 weeks
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 10:17 PM

lol that was our 1st arena :D and 2nd place too, i think were all very happy about that (+ it was epic fun, aside from the disconnecting XD)
and gg to beastsmith with his gr XD took my paladin and our creators damage down to funky town
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 10:27 PM

Did you say spectators??? /sob I missed it... I asked Etchel if I could watch the Arena...
You were busy, I understand. <3 you still.

Anyone got vids?
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 10:40 PM

I don't even know what happened with us.... maybe it's because I haven't been on SinX in a while. I swear, it was like I skipped the whole match, just went from start to finish in an instant.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 10:45 PM

disable mvp cards and mini-boss cards please. i think it defeats the purpose of having skillz. though adunno. if it's unfair to disable them then dont
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:10 PM

lol i didn't farm GR for 4 months for no reason...GR is still beatable if you don't stack your lineup with neutral damage
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:11 PM

btw video asap...i love seeing wookies get smashed
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:32 PM

btw how did i not get mvp lawlwllawwl
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 12:05 AM

View PostThe Beast Smith, on 01 August 2010 - 07:32 AM, said:

btw how did i not get mvp lawlwllawwl


Cause Seto solo'd the whole other squad lol
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 01:10 AM

View Postdyoolyan, on 01 August 2010 - 04:45 PM, said:

disable mvp cards and mini-boss cards please. i think it defeats the purpose of having skillz. though adunno. if it's unfair to disable them then dont


why should players who put their time into hunting good gears be penalized for it, alot of ro is about grinding and getting gears
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 01:19 AM

View PostRomance is Dead, on 01 August 2010 - 07:10 PM, said:

why should players who put their time into hunting good gears be penalized for it, alot of ro is about grinding and getting gears


I agree, plus it would be very satisfying if you managed to defeat someone with those kind of cards through skill and teamwork.

Grats to the winning team and nice work to the Three Stooges, but just not quite the same without the originals =p
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 03:15 AM

View PostInception, on 01 August 2010 - 04:19 AM, said:

I agree, plus it would be very satisfying if you managed to defeat someone with those kind of cards through skill and teamwork.



Teams are already required to counter the wide variety of abilities used by other classes. Requiring every team to create a counter to people wearing GR/GTB or BOTH is kind of silly, and may only limit the number of players who feel like competing. Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if the results were EXACTLY the same with no use of GR, WookieHunters would have just had to try a little harder (maybe).

The arena system IS meant to encourage skillful gameplay individually and with your team. Although advantages already exist in RO (with the difference class stats and abilities, as well as differences in gear) try to take it from both sides: if it takes a team notably more skill to beat their opponent, their opponent has some kind of advantage that is making it easier for them to win, and thus not promoting skillful play on their side. This game isn't perfect, especially not for this venue, and that's why skill/item restrictions were applied to the arena in the first place, and if a restriction can cause the only advantage in arena to be being more skillful than your opponent, it should be applied.

To put it another way, a team with godmode on has the skill requirement dropped dramatically.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 03:23 AM

The arena system is about balance above all else. If you spend the time to farm a bunch of ygg berries, it'd be pretty absurd to try and kill you with anything but one hit kills, hence they are disabled from use. Similarly, if someone gets absurd card combos, such as GR+GTB, it might be completely game breaking. There is, however, a counter to everything. Your GR+GTB might be countered by my Garm/SK. But that's when team members come into play, who can, for example, status recovery any freeze. It just gets more and more complicated. There's certainly legitimacy to both sides of the argument. I just don't think "it took a lot of effort to get this" is a legitimate argument in this case. This particular issue will take a lot of thought.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 04:27 AM

theres no prob with using gr imo XD just need diff strat/skills to counter
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 06:40 AM

View PostBuddhist, on 01 August 2010 - 04:23 AM, said:

The arena system is about balance above all else. If you spend the time to farm a bunch of ygg berries, it'd be pretty absurd to try and kill you with anything but one hit kills, hence they are disabled from use. Similarly, if someone gets absurd card combos, such as GR+GTB, it might be completely game breaking. There is, however, a counter to everything. Your GR+GTB might be countered by my Garm/SK. But that's when team members come into play, who can, for example, status recovery any freeze. It just gets more and more complicated. There's certainly legitimacy to both sides of the argument. I just don't think "it took a lot of effort to get this" is a legitimate argument in this case. This particular issue will take a lot of thought.

Imo, the Arena is a place where you have to use skills and tactics and teamwork to win, and the use of MVP/Miniboss cards will just teach the players how to fight against their opponent who has, say GTB+GR (Full Strip ftw). Now, Wookie Hunters were using some major tactics and were completely serious (MISTER SIR and Beast Smith some of the most non-serious people ever) to win. And I'm 91% sure that if they didn't use these tactics, they would've fucked up somewhere along the way and it would've costed them first place.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 08:03 AM

o noez its a GR!!!
man people here are so sad

edit. im looking at all the teams. All of them can easily counter that shit.

edit2. LMAO creo+champ+stalker team lost. how the fuck is that possible lawlawlawl
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 08:34 AM

haha taco, idk if i'm one of the least serious people. i get highly competitive and take things to a personal level even over a video game
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 09:24 AM

View Postrayksp, on 01 August 2010 - 09:34 AM, said:

haha taco, idk if i'm one of the least serious people. i get highly competitive and take things to a personal level even over a video game

I'm just saying in general, bro.
edit: GR is so easy to counter.
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